To this day, I still don't get how otherwise-sensible people can be fans of someone like Adam Baldwin. Yeah, he was in this thing you like, and played a character you like. But he's still a giant, huge, festering fuckwit.
If I ever discovered that Andrew was a douche, I'd drop him pretty much instantly. I have little to no evidence of douchery thusfar, so I'm pretty confident, but if it turned out he was some sort of arrogant fatphobe or something? Yeah, no question. Dropped like a bomb.
I came damned close to doing that with Finn Jones recently, when he said something incredibly sexist on Twitter. He got thoroughly spanked for it (including by yours truly) and retreated quickly, rather than get defensive, so I've given him a pass for now. Still a lot less sweet on him than before, though. (Gethin Anthony, on the other hand, just impresses the hell out of me every time he opens his mouth. Falling madly in love by the day.)
I realize the celeb thing itself can make people stupid and more willing to wave off asshattery (see: Mel Gibson, Woody Allen, Michael Jackson) but when it comes to more-intense fandom, it really can border on ridiculous sometimes. The lengths Whedonites go to to insist he's really a feminist, for instance. Ye gods.
On the other hand, I've sometimes found myself developing a major fancrush on someone I had never thought seriously about before just because they turned out to be an amazing person outside of their work. Don't watch a thing NPH has done recently, for instance, but as a human being, he's incredible, so I consider myself a fan. And Eddie McClintock and Colin Ferguson, even though they're not normally my type, I really adore because they're so sweet.
FWIW, I get when people just want to stick their fingers in their ears and enjoy the work without thinking too hard about the people who make it. I have to do that with John Rhys-Davies every time I watch LOTR. But I just don't quite understand being a fan of someone offscreen even if they're a complete tool, just because you've fallen in love with their onscreen character or something. Jayne's kinda cool, sure. Baldwin, on the other hand, is an ass. IDGI.
If I ever discovered that Andrew was a douche, I'd drop him pretty much instantly. I have little to no evidence of douchery thusfar, so I'm pretty confident, but if it turned out he was some sort of arrogant fatphobe or something? Yeah, no question. Dropped like a bomb.
I came damned close to doing that with Finn Jones recently, when he said something incredibly sexist on Twitter. He got thoroughly spanked for it (including by yours truly) and retreated quickly, rather than get defensive, so I've given him a pass for now. Still a lot less sweet on him than before, though. (Gethin Anthony, on the other hand, just impresses the hell out of me every time he opens his mouth. Falling madly in love by the day.)
I realize the celeb thing itself can make people stupid and more willing to wave off asshattery (see: Mel Gibson, Woody Allen, Michael Jackson) but when it comes to more-intense fandom, it really can border on ridiculous sometimes. The lengths Whedonites go to to insist he's really a feminist, for instance. Ye gods.
On the other hand, I've sometimes found myself developing a major fancrush on someone I had never thought seriously about before just because they turned out to be an amazing person outside of their work. Don't watch a thing NPH has done recently, for instance, but as a human being, he's incredible, so I consider myself a fan. And Eddie McClintock and Colin Ferguson, even though they're not normally my type, I really adore because they're so sweet.
FWIW, I get when people just want to stick their fingers in their ears and enjoy the work without thinking too hard about the people who make it. I have to do that with John Rhys-Davies every time I watch LOTR. But I just don't quite understand being a fan of someone offscreen even if they're a complete tool, just because you've fallen in love with their onscreen character or something. Jayne's kinda cool, sure. Baldwin, on the other hand, is an ass. IDGI.
